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In Case Democracy is Still Working, Vote NO on Prop 5

It still hasn’t been reported by our diligent public media that the Wellstone-Ramstad Mental Health Parity Act, successfully repelled for decades by commonsense politicians, was clandestinely rammed through to become law during the Congressional Panic of 2008. In addition to the bailout for Wall Street, the Parity Act simply removed the cap on the amount that can be spent on addiction treatment services. It added nothing to the up-front $750 billion bailout, but its effects will be seen in astronomical spending on addiction treatment services justified as crime prevention, cost-cutting, and compassion. Talk about inverted thought!
California Prop. 5 is one more example of the 12-step syndicate up to its usual gutter oriented programming. Here is a well-written rebuttal that will also explain what the proposal proposes:

The Sacramento Metro Chamber is one of many organizations opposed to the measure, including our regional law enforcement. This measure establishes two new bureaucracies with virtually no accountability, and will cost hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars.Proposition 5 weakens drug rehabilitation programs by allowing defendants to continue to use drugs while in rehab and softens the punishment of many of those accused of child abuse, domestic violence, fraud, identity theft, auto theft and a host of other crimes. This measure would reduce penalties for crimes against business, including property and white collar crimes, and would limit the ability of judges to hold parole violators accountable.


Click here for full text of Prop 5 Initiative

Proposition 5 shortens parole for methamphetamine dealers and other drug felons from 3 years, to just 6 months.

Proposition 5 is strongly opposed by Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) because it provides a way for those who kill or maim others while under the influence to avoid criminal prosecution.

Proposition 5 could provide, in effect, a “get-out-of-jail-free” card to defendants charged with crimes. For example, domestic violence, child abuse, mortgage fraud, identity theft, vehicular manslaughter, insurance fraud and auto theft, letting them effectively escape criminal prosecution altogether. If a violent offender is granted a hearing using “the drugs made me do it” defense, the burden of proof shifts to the prosecution to prove that the defendant should be held responsible for his or her crimes.

Under Proposition 5, someone who commits felonies, even violent felonies, and claims “the drugs made me do it” will be referred to country-club like drug centers, not jail or prison. These criminals will receive better medical-care than many hard-working Californians – costing taxpayers millions.

Proposition 5 goes far beyond the drug-dependent individual; it also applies to drug dealers. For example, those found with up to $50,000 worth of “meth” would be treated the same as an individual user. We need to keep focused on helping those who are drug-dependent, rather than dealers profiting off addiction. Prop 5 treats meth dealers the same as an individual drug user.

Proposition 5 changes the law so that paroled felons can keep abusing drugs without being sent back to prison. In fact, under Prop 5 if a criminal tests positive for drugs while on probation or parole they won’t face jail-time or new criminal charges.

Proposition 5 creates an “Express Lane” for drug dealers to get back on the streets and selling drugs to our kids.

Proposition 5 is designed to allow for paroled felons who commit new misdemeanor offenses, not be sent back to prison.

Under Proposition 5, paroled felons and drug dealers who ditch their parole will only receive, if captured, no more than 30 days in county jail.

Proposition 5 is universally opposed by organizations representing rank-and-file police officers, police chiefs, prosecutors and parole supervisors because they know that shortening parole for drug dealers will dramatically increase violent crime rates.

Proposition 5 sets up two new bureaucracies with no accountability, at a cost of hundreds of millions.

Proposition 5 falsely claims that it will save money, but in fact, costs will be shifted from the state to the counties, which may be forced to raise taxes.

Proposition 5 spending will continue forever, and can only be restricted by a future multi-million dollar voter initiative campaign. The Governor and Legislature cannot adjust Prop 5 funding, even in times of budget shortfall or state crisis.

Proposition 5 proponents want voters to think this proposition is about keeping non-violent drug offenders out of the prison system, but that’s based upon a false premise. Today, no first-time offender arrested solely for possession will be sent to prison – ever. The real beneficiaries of Proposition 5 are drug dealers and those accused of crimes such as domestic violence, child abuse, identity theft, mortgage fraud and others.

Proposition 5 undermines successful rehabilitation. Current rehabilitation and drug courts are set up with defined goals and consequences – these two elements are critical to effective rehabilitation efforts.

Some of the crimes that defendants can commit and qualify for “treatment” rather than jail under Proposition 5 are:

-Use of false citizenship documents
-Counterfeit of a registered mark
-Selling counterfeit products
-Crimes against elders or dependents
-Arson to inhabited structures or forest land
-Possession of incendiary devices
-Passing bad checks
-Non-sufficient funds
-Possession of counterfeiting equipment
-Receiving stolen property
-Hacking and computer crimes
-Impersonating a peace officer
-Identity theft
-Possession of counterfeit birth certificate
-Insurance fraud
-Petty theft with priors
-Possession of an illegal weapon
-Felon in possession of a firearm
-Carrying a concealed weapon
-Carrying a loaded firearm
-Statutory rape
-Driving under the influence
-DUI with bodily injury
-DUI with multiple offenses
-Reckless evading a peace officer
-Auto theft

Jack Trimpey

5 Responses to “In Case Democracy is Still Working, Vote NO on Prop 5”

  1. Jim Heckel

    Apparently, 61 percent of your fellow Californians agree with you. Congratulations. I can just see old Beast shaking his head in defeat, sitting on his butt and wondering just how “insensitive” and “racist” those Californians can be, uh? ;)

  2. hockley

    Off topic –
    The great majority quit on their own. With no or minimal group involvement. That is what I did, and I am commonplace.
    Rumor has it that folks can’t do that. That rumor is false.

  3. Ruth

    I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don’t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.



  4. Eddie "The Great" Street

    Wow, this propostion 5 thing is pretty scary.

    “Proposition 5 could provide, in effect, a “get-out-of-jail-free” card to defendants charged with crimes. For example, domestic violence, child abuse, mortgage fraud, identity theft, vehicular manslaughter, insurance fraud and auto theft, letting them effectively escape criminal prosecution altogether.”

    Looks like they’re taking the “Justice” out of the justice system.

  5. Neil

    Let him without sin, cast the first stone. I suppose you think that any of the things you did while in active alcoholism, are of no matter now, and not still thought of and hurtful to those who love you. Regardless of how many years it’s been. You’ve become Phariseeical, and no better than Bill W. You’re a right wing version of Bill W, and he (while he was alive), and you, are both cracked from the illusion of power you think you have. So don’t label me a “left wing” liberal, I am far right in my political and moral views. I no more agree with your views and sense of moral authority, than I did Bill W’s left wing agenda of powerlessness, and victimization. Where did you get “your sense of morality”? Where does a sense of morality come from? I think it’s a matter of faith. You may have had passed on to you from parents and society, but from where did it originate? Someone’s faith in their belief of right and wrong. Which originated, again, from where? It sure sounds Biblical to me, although for profits’ sake you will not make mention of the “Biblical” beast, because that doesn’t sell. Then your book would be no better than any other “Christian” self-help book. That wouldn’t be in accordance with your trademark of AVRT. All you have done is trademark the letters AVRT, but I can assure you the concept is not of your making. Now shall we engage in censorship, or shall you invite intelligent discord, rather than dogmatic belief? Ah as I thought. You’re concept of AVRT, is not original to you. The concept of the Beast was used in Biblical times. Many philosophers and great thinkers of the past have looked into the “darker side’ of human nature. What appalls me is the fact that you have registered this in copyright as a concept with which you invented. Thereby fooling those who suffer from addictions who have been disillusioned by 12 step programs. I too suffered from this disillusionment with 12 step programs. I came across your website in 2000 and purchased your book “The new cure for Addiction”. Since then I have watched you go from one willing to help someone, to nothing more than a “know it all”, who doesn’t come out and say, your way is the only way, (neither did Bill W, though many of his followers do), although it is insinuated, just as it was with Bill W. I’m sure many of your followers would fight for your way of thinking, as many of the 12 steppers would for Bill’s message. I personally am sick of it. Bill W is one extreme and you are the other and I’m sick of the fight, because in my opinion you’re both wrong. You are just like one of the “moneychangers” that Jesus ran out of the temple for your greed in wanting to make money off of people’s suffering. To top it off, now you have entered the political arena. Have fun counting your money, and furthering your political agenda.


    At first I didn’t understand why you’re so hostile toward me, until I realize you’re a post smoker, defending your continued self-intoxication even after causing decades of hardship to others by drinking/using. It would have been better to identify yourself, “I smoke marijuana myself, and I take issue with your views on drug addiction.”

    As for your attacks on my character, it is the way of the Beast to circumvent reason with hostility and character attacks. I cannot remember most of the harm I caused others, including my family, so I cannot do fearless moral inventories on those offenses. My behavior under the influence is that of my animal nature, which I set loose on others by the act of self-intoxication. It is a vile act, not an innocent symptom of anything, and I renounce my moral right to ever drink/use again. When I apologize to those I care about, which I do from time to time, it is for drinking while knowing the harm my drinking was causing them. I am sorry about everything I did under the influence, but I am most dreadfully ashamed of the fact that I drank fully conscious of the risk of harm to others.

    You haven’t grasped AVRT® because you are following the dark star of your next fix. When you are ready to quit, I think you’ll find your way with Biblical Christianity, due to your greater respect for those authors. Thus far, it is clear you are in the grip of the Beast, seeing and reading through its eyes rather than yours. For example, your perception of my moralism only reflects your own, but we stand on opposite sides of the abstinence issue. I hope that catches your attention, although the Beast is oppositional to the truth, defending evil causes such as substance abuse, collectivism, human rights (as opposed to inalienable rights and human responsibilities).
    If you are annoyed that I have taken a trademark on AVRT®, then you’ll really love the fact that I also own the mark of the Beast®. Put that in your pot pipe and smoke it.

    Jack Trimpey

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